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		<title>i&#8217;ve been shit about updating the blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[birthday]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[dillinger escape plan]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[haven&#8217;t felt the urge to write on here in awhile. i&#8217;m not sure why that is or isn&#8217;t. last month i had the big THREE ZERO birthday, which was absolutely uneventful and the least dramatic thing that&#8217;s happened in my life recently. i&#8217;m not sure if birthday&#8217;s just don&#8217;t mean very much once you get [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haven&#8217;t felt the urge to write on here in awhile.  i&#8217;m not sure why that is or isn&#8217;t.  last month i had the big THREE ZERO birthday, which was absolutely uneventful and the least dramatic thing that&#8217;s happened in my life recently.  i&#8217;m not sure if birthday&#8217;s just don&#8217;t mean very much once you get older and the presents quit rolling in or if i&#8217;m just in a late winter funk.  anyway, 30 is looking pretty much like 29 and 28.  we&#8217;ll see how the year progresses.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve been keeping pretty busy with work and life (more life than work lately, but i prefer it that way. even if the life shit isn&#8217;t all that great).</p>
<p>i haven&#8217;t been able to get out with my new nikon d5000 as much as i&#8217;d like, which is disappointing.  i&#8217;m working on that though.  i have been taking a beginners class from cord camera which is teaching me some stuff about my camera that i didn&#8217;t figure out on my own.  hell, i even read the manual for the goddamn thing (and so far 2 photography books as well).  i&#8217;m looking forward to the warm weather so hopefully i can get out and take some pictures.  i&#8217;m not too comfortable taking it out into the snow and slush just yet.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s the new dillinger escape plan song/video.  shit is \m/ as fuck</p>
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(yes i preordered their album and yes i opted for the <a href="http://e-shop.season-of-mist.com/en/catalog/show/22675">$80 box set</a> b/c i am a huge nerd)</p>
<p>while i&#8217;m on music, <a href="http://www.eastofthewall.com/">east of the wall</a> (which used to be called the postman syndrome) is putting out what would have been the 2nd postman album.  the only catch is that they need 100 people to preorder it so they can do a proper release, otherwise it&#8217;ll just be an itunes only type thing.  so if you like good bands that are doing it diy then go over there to their site and preorder the shit.  i promise you won&#8217;t be disappointed, especially if you like some weird-kind-of-mathy-metal music.</p>
<p>so that&#8217;s it for now i guess.</p>
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		<title>top 10 albums of 2009</title>
		<link>http://blog.norbz.org/archives/633</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>norb</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Music]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[i had a really hard time coming up with a top 10 this year.  it seems like every year it gets harder and harder.  i don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s because i find more and more good music or because my tastes are becoming more honed/refined as i get older.  or maybe i should say they&#8217;re [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had a really hard time coming up with a top 10 this year.  it seems like every year it gets harder and harder.  i don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s because i find more and more good music or because my tastes are becoming more honed/refined as i get older.  or maybe i should say they&#8217;re getting more narrow, so i listen to more stuff that sounds a lot alike and therefore is harder to organize into a good top 10.</p>
<p>with that said, here&#8217;s my list for 2009. (previous year&#8217;s top 10s <a title="top 10 albums" href="http://blog.norbz.org/archives/tag/top-10" target="_blank">here</a>)</p>
<p>1. snail &#8211; blood</p>
<p><img class="size-medium wp-image-642 alignnone" title="snail - blood" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/snail-blood-300x300.jpg" alt="snail - blood" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p>2. baroness- blue record</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-634" title="baroness - blue record" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/baroness-bluerecord-300x300.jpg" alt="baroness - blue record" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p>3. every time i die &#8211; new junk aesthetic</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-636" title="every time i die - new junk aesthetic" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/etid-nja-300x300.jpg" alt="every time i die - new junk aesthetic" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p>4. kowloon walled city &#8211; gambling on the richter scale</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-637" title="kowloon walled city - gambling on the richter scale" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/kwc-gotrs-300x300.jpg" alt="kowloon walled city - gambling on the richter scale" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p>5. doomriders &#8211; darkness comes alive</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-635" title="doomriders - darkness comes alive" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/doomriders-dca-300x300.jpg" alt="doomriders - darkness comes alive" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p>6. poison the well &#8211; the tropic rot</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-641" title="poison the well - the tropic rot" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/ptw-ttr-300x300.jpg" alt="poison the well - the tropic rot" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p>7. them crooked vultures &#8211; them crooked vultures</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-643" title="them crooked vultures - them crooked vultures" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/tcv-300x300.jpg" alt="them crooked vultures - them crooked vultures" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p>8. mastodon &#8211; crack the skye</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-639" title="mastodon - crack the skye" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/mastodon-cracktheskye-300x300.jpg" alt="mastodon - crack the skye" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p>9. moby &#8211; wait for me</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-640" title="moby - wait for me" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/moby-wait-for-me-cover-300x300.jpg" alt="moby - wait for me" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p>10. lo pan &#8211; sasquanaut</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-638" title="lo pan - sasquanaut" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/lopan-sasquanaut-300x296.jpg" alt="lo pan - sasquanaut" width="300" height="296" /></p>
<p>and then the honorable mentions (in alphabetical order):</p>
<p>cave in &#8211; planets of old<br />
converge &#8211; axe to fall<br />
danger mouse &amp; sparklehorse &#8211; dark night of the soul<br />
devil to pay &#8211; heavily ever after<br />
del the funky homosapien &#8211; funk man (the stimulus package)<br />
dredg &#8211; the pariah, the parrot, the delusion<br />
if these trees could talk &#8211; above the earth, below the sky<br />
isis &#8211; wavering radiant<br />
jesu &#8211; infinity<br />
julian casablancas &#8211; phrazes for the young<br />
keelhaul &#8211; keelhaul&#8217;s triumphant return to obscurity<br />
mellowdrone &#8211; angry bear<br />
porcupine tree &#8211; the incident<br />
russian circles &#8211; geneva<br />
vitalic &#8211; flashmob<br />
zombi &#8211; spirit animal</p>
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		<title>leonard cohen</title>
		<link>http://blog.norbz.org/archives/593</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>norb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[last night K and i went to see leonard cohen at the palace theater downtown.  let me just come out and say it was one of the best performances i&#8217;ve ever seen.  it probably tops the them crooked vultures show i saw earlier this month.  it might not have been as energetic, but the musicianship [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-594" style="margin: 7px;" title="Leonard Cohen" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Leonard_Cohen_2187-edited-200x300.jpg" alt="Leonard Cohen" width="200" height="300" />last night K and i went to see leonard cohen at the <a title="palace theater, columbus ohio" href="http://www.capa.com/columbus/venues/palace_about.php" target="_blank">palace theater</a> downtown.  let me just come out and say it was one of the best performances i&#8217;ve ever seen.  it probably tops the them crooked vultures show i saw earlier this month.  it might not have been as energetic, but the musicianship and songwriting of leonard and his band are pretty hard to match.</p>
<p>leonard himself is getting pretty old (75 according to <a title="leonard cohen article @ wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Cohen" target="_blank">wikipedia</a>) but he&#8217;s still got the voice.  for anyone that is unfamiliar with him, he has a very raspy, soulful kind of voice.  he sings a lot of ballad type songs, but also has some more &#8220;risque&#8221; themes to some of his songs.  he also has some really great <a title="1000 kisses deep by leonard cohen" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXaRT8CXmGE" target="_blank">poetry</a> if you are in to that kind of thing.  the set itself was almost 3 hours long, which was very impressive.  of course he has a huge collection of songs to choose from, but i did not expect 3 hours worth of music.</p>
<p>with a legendary singer/songwriter like cohen at the helm, you&#8217;d expect him to have a great backing band, and that was most definitely the case.  everyone in the band was a very solid performer, but the backup singers (a couple girls called <a title="www.thewebbsisters.com/" href="http://www.thewebbsisters.com/" target="_blank">the webb sisters</a> and <a title="www.sharonrobinsonmusic.com/" href="http://www.sharonrobinsonmusic.com/" target="_blank">sharon robinson</a>) and the guy who played 12 string guitar and some other crazy stringed instrumetns (<a title="javier mas myspace page" href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendid=267591915" target="_blank">javier mas</a>) impressed me the most.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not everyday that you get to see a world renowned poet, singer, and songwriter all in one night.  i also suspect this will be his final tour so it was great to get to see him.  i just really wish i could write out an adequate review of this show.  all i can say really is that it was amazing and isn&#8217;t something i&#8217;ll forget for a long, long time.</p>
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		<title>them crooked vultures</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>norb</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[john paul jones]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[josh homme]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[got to catch their show in town last night.  all i can say is holy shit!  what a great performance.  it was definately a different kind of experience seeing them and knowing that no one had a true expectation of what was coming.  sure there are clips and short videos out on youtube, but they [...]]]></description>
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<p>got to catch their show in town last night.  all i can say is holy shit!  what a great performance.  it was definately a different kind of experience seeing them and knowing that no one had a true expectation of what was coming.  sure there are clips and short videos out on youtube, but they didn&#8217;t really give me a full understanding of what i was about to see.</p>
<p>in the times that we live, it is a rare thing to go into a concert and not have any idea what you are in for.  maybe if the band is new and just starting out or local and can&#8217;t afford any recordings, then you would have no idea what you are in for.  but for a band of this calibur, with 3 huge rock stars in it, to have heard basically <em>nothing</em> before you see them is pretty much incomprehensible.  i have to say it was a great experience and was not disappointing at all!</p>
<p>let me just come right out and say that john paul jones was the member that surprised me the most.  dave grohl was a total monster on the drums, as i expected, and josh homme was his usual stoner rocking self.  but john paul jones!  holy shit.  he played a different instrument on about every song.  i saw him play 4 string bass, 6 string bass, 8 string bass, keyboards, a fucking <em>keytar (!)</em>, and then one on of the last songs, an instrument that i didn&#8217;t even know existed; a <em><strong>slide bass (!!).</strong></em> i guess i knew he had to be a pretty amazing musician, given the output of led zepplin, but i had no idea that i&#8217;d be in for that kind of virtuosic performance.</p>
<p>the one horrible thing about seeing a band like that and then not having any recorded music to listen to is the fact that as soon as it was over i wanted to listen again.  i&#8217;m settling for some bootlegs i found online to tide me over until the new album comes out.</p>
<p>i would tell everyone i knew to see them if they get the chance but i have no idea how much more or extensive touring they will actually do.  it will definitely be an album to keep your eye out for though!</p>
<p>them crooked vultures official site is <a title="themcrookedvultures.com" href="http://themcrookedvultures.com" target="_blank">here</a></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">found the bootlegs here (in the downloads section)</span><br />
[edit 11.18.2009] looks like the site i got the bootleg from is gone, but the album is out now so you should be able to find it (legally or otherwise)</p>
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		<title>more from the lo-pan promotions department</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a few months ago i whipped up a couple buttons for my friends in lo-pan.  they have pretty much sold out of the two designs i did (how exciting!) so i did a couple more for them.  i can&#8217;t take too much credit for these new ones because i just stole stuff other, more talented, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a few months ago i whipped up a <a title="lo-pan ohio leaf button" href="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/lopan-button.jpg" target="_blank">couple</a> <a title="lo-pan ohio button" href="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/lopan-button2.jpg" target="_blank">buttons</a> for my friends in <a title="lopandemic.com" href="http://lopandemic.com/" target="_blank">lo-pan</a>.  they have pretty much sold out of the two designs i did (how exciting!) so i did a couple more for them.  i can&#8217;t take too much credit for these new ones because i just stole stuff other, more talented, people designed for them and buttonized it.</p>
<p><a rel="attachment wp-att-533" href="http://blog.norbz.org/archives/532/lo-pan-foot-button"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-533" title="lo-pan foot button" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/lo-pan-foot-button-300x300.jpg" alt="lo-pan foot button" width="300" height="300" /></a> <a rel="attachment wp-att-534" href="http://blog.norbz.org/archives/532/lo-pan-koi-button-2"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-534" title="lo-pan koi button" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/lo-pan-koi-button-2-300x300.jpg" alt="lo-pan koi button" width="300" height="300" /></a></p>
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		<title>top 10 albums of 2008</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>norb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[hard to realize it&#8217;s already mid january, but here&#8217;s my top 10 from last year. not so much metal as 2007, but 2008 was definitely another banner year for rock for me 1. torche &#8211; meanderthal 2. all the way rider &#8211; the eagles revenge 3. black sheep wall &#8211; i am god songs 4. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hard to realize it&#8217;s already mid january, but here&#8217;s my top 10 from last year.</p>
<p>not so much metal as <a title="top 10 of 2007" href="http://blog.norbz.org/archives/40" target="_blank">2007</a>, but 2008 was definitely another banner year for rock for me</p>
<p>1. torche &#8211; meanderthal</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-394" title="torche - meanderthal" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/torche.jpg" alt="torche - meanderthal" width="200" height="200" /></p>
<p>2. all the way rider &#8211; the eagles revenge</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-395" title="all-the-way-rider - the eagles revenge" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/all-the-way-rider.jpg" alt="all-the-way-rider - the eagles revenge" width="200" height="200" /></p>
<p>3. black sheep wall &#8211; i am god songs</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-396" title="black-sheep-wall - i am god songs" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/black-sheep-wall.jpg" alt="black-sheep-wall - i am god songs" width="195" height="200" /></p>
<p>4. the death of her money &#8211; spirit of the stairwell</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-397" title="death-of-her-money - spirit of the stairwell" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/death-of-her-money.jpg" alt="death-of-her-money - spirit of the stairwell" width="200" height="200" /></p>
<p>5. a silver mount zion &#8211; 13 blues for thirteen moons</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-398" title="a silver mount zion - 13 blues for thirteen moons" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/silver-mount-zion.jpg" alt="a silver mount zion - 13 blues for thirteen moons" width="200" height="200" /></p>
<p>6. russian circles &#8211; station</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-399" title="russian circles - station" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/russiancircles.jpg" alt="russian circles - station" width="200" height="200" /></p>
<p>7. kowloon walled city &#8211; turk street</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-400" title="kowloon walled city - turk street" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/kowloon-walled-city.jpg" alt="kowloon walled city - turk street" width="200" height="200" /></p>
<p>8. gregor samsa &#8211; rest</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-401" title="gregor samsa - rest" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/gregor_samsa_rest.jpg" alt="gregor samsa - rest" width="200" height="200" /></p>
<p>9. man man &#8211; rabbit habits</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-402" title="man man - rabbit habits" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/manmanrabbithabits.jpg" alt="man man - rabbit habits" width="200" height="200" /></p>
<p>10. yak ballz &#8211; scifentology 2</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-403" title="yak ballz - scifentology 2" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/yakballz_cover.jpg" alt="yak ballz - scifentology 2" width="197" height="200" /></p>
<p>and the notabale runner ups (in alphabetical order):</p>
<p>the black keys &#8211; attack and release<br />
don caballero &#8211; punkgasm<br />
intronaut &#8211; prehistoricisms<br />
local h &#8211; twelve angry months<br />
meshuggah &#8211; obzen<br />
mogwai &#8211; the hawk is howling<br />
mouth of the architect &#8211; quietly<br />
one day as a lion &#8211; one day as a lion<br />
spylacopa &#8211; spylacopa<br />
zozobra &#8211; bird of prey</p>
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		<title>a possible future for music distribution</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>norb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#8217;m a member of a particular file sharing community. i won&#8217;t mention which one, but suffice to say it&#8217;s rather tasty. anyway, i&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about that community and the distribution method there. the site is all torrents (of course) as they offer the fastest distribution possible. they also allow the site administrators [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m a member of a particular file sharing community.  i won&#8217;t mention which one, but suffice to say it&#8217;s rather tasty.</p>
<p>anyway, i&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about that community and the  distribution method there.  the site is all torrents (of course) as they offer the fastest distribution possible.  they also allow the site administrators to basically avoid a lot of legal trouble by hosting nothing on the site but the torrent files.  this is a very common setup in the &#8220;piracy&#8221; world.  i hate to use that word to describe the community, because i think, especially related to music, these sites are the future and someday these &#8220;pirates&#8221; may be looked back on as innovators and forward thinkers.</p>
<p>so if you&#8217;ve never been a member of one of these file sharing communities before,  the way they tend to work is thus: how much you download is tracked.  as you download the amount of data you&#8217;ve downloaded is stored  in your profile on the site. your download total is then matched up with the amount of data you&#8217;ve uploaded to give a &#8220;ratio.&#8221; this ratio is then used to track your status on the site, with penalties for people that do not keep their ratio high enough (essentially not sharing what you&#8217;ve downloaded).</p>
<p>this tracking accomplishes a couple of things.  first, it helps to keep things available for other users longer.  it&#8217;s in the user&#8217;s best interest to  keep something &#8220;seeded&#8221; to allow other users to download it as well (as this helps their ratio by uploading data).  second, it helps to keep file transfer speeds up, as again it is best for the users to keep things open on their end.  the more people you can potentially download from, the faster your download will be.  that&#8217;s really the essence behind torrent technology in the first place.   lastly, tracking a user&#8217;s ratio is good for the community as a whole.  it promotes sharing and helps to keep the community growing, in regards to the amount of music available and shared.</p>
<p>so how can this model be applied to a &#8220;legitimate&#8221; music distribution source?  i think that most people that are a part of these communities (and these communities do contain artists and bands as well as your average music fan) realize that what they are doing is taking something from an artist and not providing the compensation they deserve.  the majority of these people i think are fed up with the price of music, they way they are treated by record labels, and a general  overabundance of music that just kind of sucks.  there are plenty of great bands out there, but finding them is almost impossible by going to the record store or listening to the radio anymore (don&#8217;t even get me started on mtv or vh1).  most of that music is so tightly controlled by record labels that it&#8217;s hard to find things new and interesting.</p>
<p>the system in place already on these sites is pretty well designed.  these sites have been through a few iterations now, and the community and policies used are well developed. i don&#8217;t think the system needs to change in the way it works, but i think that it can be adapted to a pay model for music distribution, which in the long run would benefit both music listeners and artists (and even to an extent record labels).  here&#8217;s what i would suggest.</p>
<ul>
<li>the base fee for a site could be $5 &#8211; $10 per month.  i think it&#8217;s already been proven that people are willing to pay for monthly services as long as those services provide what they need and are updated frequently.  take a look at the popularity of MMOs or netflix and you&#8217;ll see that people are willing to pay monthly for entertainment.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>keep the ratios, and make them hold an incentive.  what i think would work well in this regard would be a fee adjustment for uploading and keeping a &#8220;good ratio.&#8221;  for example, as long as your ratio for a particular month is say, 1.00+, then you save a certain amount of money off the next month&#8217;s fee.  if your ratio is in the range from 0.75-1.00, then you save still, but not as much as if you had a higher ratio.  the same would go for uploading a quality rip or fulfilling a user request.  you could save a certain amount of money for any requests filled, or new uploads that you provide.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>the record labels have to give up some control.  that&#8217;s the biggest hurdle to any of the new age p2p type sharing communities or systems.  the record labels would need to provide the servers to host the site, but they <em>should not</em> provide the content (yet&#8230;).  they need to let users upload from their own collections.  this is especially true in the formative stages of this kind of service.  as cds and other physical media become less and less available, and all music is initially released digitally, the need for users to share their own collections will become less necessary.  but until that time, record labels have to give up their physical control of the product and rather let their control come from the distribution.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>artists need to have a stake in it too.  the sites themselves could be owned by record labels, but they should allow artists to receive compensation when their music is added.  because the site tracks users, torrents, and all kinds of other data, it would be easy to track the amount of downloads an artist receives.  this should allow for a good profit sharing amongst the parties involved.  in fact, i would argue that the labels themselves should only make profit from ads.  all download dividends should be given directly to the artist.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>file formats and quality should still be enforced.  i think the best aspect of these communities now is their &#8220;snobbish&#8221; approach to digital music quality.  i think this absolutely needs to stay the same.  i think it is in the best interest of everyone involved to have the highest quality product available, as well as to only reward those users that conform to those quality standards.  the policing should continue to be done by community members with assistance from some paid employees.</li>
</ul>
<p>by moving these sites from the underground to the mainstream you gain acceptance from the public at large.  you also open the community up for a much broader range of music and opinions.  while many people might feel special because they are a member of these communities, i think that attitude might be the most damaging to something like this in the long run.  as it is now, music is controlled by large corporations that really have no desire to promote or manage an artist properly.  they only care about the bottom line.  i think a system such as i&#8217;ve outlined above still allows them to maintain their bottom line (granted not to the tune of millions of dollars, but really who expects that to keep up?) as well as provide a method for distribution of any and all artists.</p>
<p>could you imagine if you could hook up to an online music repository that contained literally hundreds of thousands of releases via your xbox 360 or other home media center?  that&#8217;s the potential for something like this, if only the recording industry would get off their asses and do something about it.  because, i guarantee if they don&#8217;t, someone else will (and already have, but to the loss of the music industry).</p>
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		<title>the new NIN album &#8211; ghosts i &#8211; iv</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>norb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[trent reznor (aka nine inch nails) released a new album this past sunday night. what&#8217;s so special about that you might ask? the fact that he is giving it out in multiple formats, with multiple ways you can receive it. from somewhere: Nine Inch Nails has self-released a new instrumental album, Ghosts I-IV. Consisting of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trent reznor (aka nine inch nails) released a new album this past sunday night.  what&#8217;s so special about that you might ask?  the fact that he is giving it out in multiple formats, with multiple ways you can receive it.<a href="http://nin.com" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-329" style="margin: 10px;" title="nin.com" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/ghosts_160x600_1.jpg" alt="nin.com" width="160" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>from somewhere:</p>
<blockquote><p>Nine Inch Nails has self-released a new instrumental album, Ghosts I-IV. Consisting of 36 instrumental tracks described as &#8220;music for daydreams&#8221; and released under Creative Commons, it is available in a wide range of formats: MP3, double CD, a package with: the 2xCD, multitracks on DVD, and a deluxe book, and finally the super-deluxe limited edition which includes all that as well as a copy of the album on vinyl.</p>
<p>The free MP3 download includes the first volume &#8211; nine tracks (each with unique artwork), wallpapers, and a PDF of the 40 page book. Available directly off nin.com, <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">you also have the option to torrent it via official NIN profiles on Waffles, what.cd and The Pirate Bay</span></span></span>. Absent from this release was any kind of leak of audio or information. Record labels and artists should take notes: This is how you do music distribution.</p></blockquote>
<p>notice the <strong>bolded</strong>, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">underlined</span>, <em>italicized </em>line above.  this is what sets this release apart from any other of the recent digital distributions done (saul williams and radiohead for example).  giving out the free version via &#8220;illegal&#8221; downloading sites is a new idea for a major artist.  trent reznor has been quoted as having been a member of oink and some other music download sites.</p>
<p>the fact that he&#8217;s willing to put his money where his mouth is is pretty amazing.  i&#8217;m happy to see an artist use this method of distribution.  for those of you that don&#8217;t know, there are of course purchasable versions as well (which do have more tracks, 36 in total as opposed to the 9 avail for free).</p>
<p>a rundown of what&#8217;s available:</p>
<blockquote><p>FREE DOWNLOAD<br />
Ghosts I &#8211; The first 9 tracks from the Ghosts I-IV collection available as<br />
high-quality DRM-free MP3s (320kbps LAME encoded, fully tagged) including complete 40 page PDF. Also includes the digital extras pack &#8211; various<br />
wallpapers, icons, and graphics tools for your computer, website, profile, etc.</p>
<p>$5 DOWNLOAD<br />
Ghosts I-IV &#8211; All 36 tracks in a variety of DRM-free digital formats (320<br />
kbps LAME encoded, fully tagged; FLAC Lossless; Apple Lossless) including a 40<br />
page PDF. Also includes the digital extras pack &#8211; various wallpapers, icons,<br />
and graphics tools for your computer, website, profile, etc.</p>
<p>This version is also available from the Amazon MP3 store.</p>
<p>$10 2XCD SET<br />
Ghosts I-IV &#8211; 2 audio CDs in a gatefold digipak package with a 16-page<br />
booklet. To be shipped TBD. Includes immediate DRM-free download of the<br />
entire collection in same choice of formats as $5 Download option. Download<br />
will include the 40 page PDF and the digital extras pack &#8211; various wallpapers,<br />
cons, and graphics tools for your computer, website, profile, etc.<br />
This configuration will be released to retail in North America (April 8), Australia (April 5), the UK (April 8), Japan (April 5) and most European territories (April 8).</p>
<p>$75 LIMITED EDITION DELUXE PACKAGE<br />
Ghosts I-IV &#8211; Hardcover book holding 2 audio CDs, 1 data DVD of all 36<br />
tracks in multi-track format (in .wav files readable by Mac and Windows), and<br />
Blu-ray disc featuring stereo recordings in high-definition 24 bit 96Khz with<br />
exclusive slide show. Includes immediate DRM-free download of the entire<br />
collection in all formats and with all extras mentioned above. Also includes<br />
48-page hardcover of photographs by Phillip Graybill and Rob Sheridan.<br />
Discs and art book both housed in fabric slipcover.</p>
<p>$300 ULTRA-DELUXE LIMITED EDITION PACKAGE<br />
Ghosts I-IV &#8211; Contains all elements from deluxe package, along with<br />
exclusive 4XLP 180-gram vinyl set, and two limited edition Giclee prints<br />
available exclusively in this package. Disc book, art book, and prints are<br />
all housed in a fabric slipcover. 4XLP vinyl set comes in its own fabric<br />
slipcover. INCLUDES immediate DRM-free download of the entire collection in<br />
all formats and with all extras mentioned above. LIMITED TO 2500 PIECES,<br />
NUMBERED AND PERSONALLY SIGNED BY TRENT REZNOR.</p></blockquote>
<p>what is so great about this is the fact that he&#8217;s providing a number of different options to consumers, which should help to maximize his own profits while allowing the fans to choose something that fits their budget.  $5 for a full album download (including album art in each file) is more than reasonable in my opinion.  $10 for a 2x cd isn&#8217;t bad either (and is the option i chose).  beyond that, he&#8217;s released all the media under the <a title="Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commerical Share Alike license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/" target="_blank">Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share Alike license</a>.  this license gives the user complete control over the songs.  they can &#8220;copy, distribute, display, and perform the work&#8221; as well as &#8220;make derivative works&#8221; (ie remixes) as long as they list the source (NIN, trent reznor) and they aren&#8217;t charging anything for it.</p>
<p>to me this is how music should be distributed and used.  i hope that this idea catches on for more than just those artists, like NIN, that already have a solid fanbase to work from.  i don&#8217;t see any reason it can&#8217;t</p>
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		<title>top 10 albums of 2007</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>norb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[so it&#8217;s that time of year again where all kind of know-it-alls try to tell you what albums you should&#8217;ve listened to over the past 365 days. i&#8217;m not going to do that, but i&#8217;ll definately share with you my top 10, take it or leave it. 1. every time i die &#8211; the big [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so it&#8217;s that time of year again where all kind of know-it-alls try to tell you what albums you should&#8217;ve listened to over the past 365 days.  i&#8217;m not going to do that, but i&#8217;ll definately share with you my top 10, take it or leave it.</p>
<p><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;">1. </span></span><img src="http://z.about.com/d/heavymetal/1/0/3/F/-/-/everytimeidie-thebig.jpg" alt="every time i die - the big dirty" width="200" height="200" align="top" /><br />
every time i die &#8211; the big dirty</p>
<p><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;"> 2. </span></span><img src="http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b247/flamingos_poncho/POISONTHEWELL_versionsCover2.jpg" alt="poison the well - versions" width="200" height="200" align="top" /><br />
poison the well &#8211; versions</p>
<p><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;">3. </span></span><img src="http://shop.relapse.com/dbimages/sleeves/6699CD_216.jpg" alt="dillinger escape plan - ire works" width="216" height="216" align="top" /><br />
<span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;"> dillinger escape plan &#8211; ire works<br />
</span></span></p>
<p><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;"> 4. </span></span><img src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_bJSawPDLsBw/Roj63lSReII/AAAAAAAAArE/1IQvKZg300k/s200/willhaven4th.jpg" alt="will haven - the hierophant" width="200" height="200" align="top" /><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;"><br />
will haven &#8211; the hierophant<br />
</span></span></p>
<p><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;"> 5. </span></span><img src="http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/store/covers/DJX0137CD.jpg" alt="el-p - i'll sleep when you're dead" width="200" height="200" align="top" /><br />
<span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;">el-p &#8211; i&#8217;ll sleep when you&#8217;re dead<br />
</span></span></p>
<p><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;"> 6. </span></span><img class="size-full wp-image-405 alignnone" title="porcupine tree - fear of a black planet" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/cover40.jpg" alt="porcupine tree - fear of a black planet" width="200" height="200" /><br />
<span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;"> porcupine tree &#8211; fear of a black planet</span></span></p>
<p><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;">7. </span></span><img src="http://z.about.com/d/heavymetal/1/0/o/7/-/-/jesu-conqueror.jpg" alt="jesu - conqueror" width="200" height="200" align="top" /><br />
<span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;">jesu &#8211; conqueror<br />
</span></span></p>
<p><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;"> 8. </span></span><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/2242/cover_1415182422007.jpg" alt="pelican - city of echoes" width="200" height="200" align="top" /><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;"><br />
pelican &#8211; city of echoes<br />
</span></span></p>
<p><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;"> 9. </span></span><img src="http://cdbaby.name/k/e/kenandrews.jpg" alt="ken andrews - secrets of the lost satellites" width="200" height="200" align="top" /><br />
<span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;">ken andrews &#8211; secrets of the lost satellites<br />
</span></span></p>
<p><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;"> 10. </span></span><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-407" title="radiohead - in rainbows" src="http://blog.norbz.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/radiohead_in_rainbows2.jpg" alt="radiohead - in rainbows" width="200" height="200" /><br />
<span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;">radiohead &#8211; in rainbows</span></span></p>
<p><span><span class="font2" style="font-family: verdana;">honorable mentions:<br />
tomahawk &#8211; anonymous<br />
high on fire &#8211; death is this communion<br />
wu-tang clan &#8211; 8 diagrams<br />
akron/family &#8211; love is simple<br />
the ocean &#8211; precambrian<br />
silverchair &#8211; young modern<br />
battles &#8211; mirrored<br />
neurosis &#8211; given to the rising</span></span></p>
<p>yeah i know, a lot of metal.</p>
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		<title>did you read about madonna?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>norb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[she signed with live nation (traditionally a concert promoter) as an artist. what an interesting concept. could it be the first move in a series of events that will lead to the final downfall of the record industry as we know it? i see it as being a really ballsy, yet smart, move on her [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>she <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/16/madonna.livenation.ap/index.html" title="cnn.com" target="_blank">signed </a>with live nation (traditionally a concert promoter) as an artist.  what an interesting concept.  could it be the first move in a series of events that will lead to the final downfall of the record industry as we know it?</p>
<p>i see it as being a really ballsy, yet smart, move on her part.  she&#8217;s out from under the traditional thinking by record labels that you cannot give away the music for free and make money.  it has her tying all of her revenue to one company (as opposed to the old model where the promoter takes a cut, the label takes a cut, and the artist takes a cut).   she can probably distribute the music for free or relatively free online then recoup her recording costs in merchandising and ticket sales.  no longer will there be a tug of war between the promoter and her label (as they&#8217;ve become one in the same).</p>
<p>i think this model probably has a better chance of surviving and/or bringing more artists to the limelight than the DIY model that some bands are taking now.  i&#8217;d be interested to see how this kind of idea will work out with some lesser known names.  if live nation can use madonna money to develop and promote some smaller or lesser known bands, i think it could really hellp to turn the music industry tide from a stream of sound-a-like brainless pop music to something where interesting, innovative, or otherwise more &#8220;niche&#8221; type sounds can make it a bit more mainstream.</p>
<p>we&#8217;ll see though.  maybe i&#8217;m being overly optimistic here.</p>
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